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NASHVILLE\u2014<\/strong>The Army thinks its Apache helicopters, developed a half-century ago to kill Soviet tanks, might offer a solution to enemy drones two or three orders of magnitude smaller.<\/p>\n

As the service races to mold a counter-drone strategy based on lessons from Ukraine and now Iran, <\/strong>it is testing AH-64s armed with rockets and proximity-fuzed shells against drones weighing\u00a0over 50 pounds, officials said recently during the Army Aviation Warfighting Summit.<\/p>\n

The idea came straight from the force, Maj. Gen. Clair Gill, who heads the Army Aviation Center of Excellence, said\u00a0 April 15. He credited Daniel York, a recently retired chief warrant officer-5 and Apache training manager, with the idea to test out the Apache\u2019s counter-unmanned prowess during Operation Flyswatter last year, using some air-to-ground missiles, Hellfires, and 30mm proximity rounds.<\/p>\n

\u201cEverybody here is familiar with the JIATF-401\u201d\u2014the Pentagon\u2019s counterdrone task force\u2014and how much energy the Department of War is putting against counter-unmanned aerial systems,\u201d Gill told an audience. \u201cWe can be very valuable to that. And I’m proud to say\u2026we’re giving that to our warfighters that are forward right now.\u201d<\/p>\n

That includes the 12th Combat Aviation Brigade, which recently tested its Apaches in aerial counter-drone operations.<\/p>\n

\u201cThe UAS threat has defined the conflict in Ukraine, and as we see, also back in the [U.S. Central Command area of operations],\u201d said Lt. Gen. Hank Taylor, the U.S. military representative to NATO, said April 16. \u201cThis is not just about protecting our forces. It’s about enduring, and ensuring that we control the airspace, and that we can protect all of our forces.\u201d<\/p>\n

All of the services have been looking at more efficient ways to down drones, from jamming to lasers, beyond shooting missiles at quadcopters. The Army thinks Apache munitions are a good fit, especially for Group 3 UAS and above\u2014that is, drones that weigh from about 55 pounds to more than 1,000.<\/p>\n

\u201cEngaging Group 3-5 UAS with an Apache using cost-effective munitions like 30mm or guided rockets preserves high-end, expensive ground interceptors for more complex threats,\u201d Brig. Gen. David Phillips, the Army\u2019s deputy Portfolio Acquisition Executive for air maneuver, told Defense One.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n

The Apache\u2019s ability to run down targets and fire smaller rounds make it an efficient and cost-effective counter-UAS system, Phillips said.<\/p>\n

\u201cAn Apache can rapidly reposition to intercept incoming threats across a massive operational footprint, effectively adding to our ground-based air and missile defense umbrella,\u201d he said. \u201cFurthermore, the Apache is highly cost-efficient in this role. When our crews engage these larger UAS, they aren’t necessarily using high-end anti-armor missiles,\u201d he said. \u201cUsing a relatively inexpensive rocket or a burst of 30mm to down a Group 3 or 4 drone is an incredibly favorable cost-exchange ratio.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

To that end, Gill said, the Army has placed a big order for 30mm proximity-fuze ammunition with Northrop Grumman.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cWe had 600 rounds total,\u201d he said. \u201cThey\u2019ve produced 1,000 rounds already this month, and they\u2019ll produce another 1,000, and they’re going to ramp their rate up probably five times that.\u201d<\/p>\n

The Apache\u2019s prospective new mission comes as the Army is retiring its AH-64D models, moving them to other functions while continuing to buy AH-64Es.<\/p>\n

\u201cThe Apache\u2019s proven reliability as a c-UAS platform doesn’t change our entire procurement strategy, but it strongly validates the direction we are already heading with the AH-64E Version 6 and beyond,\u201d Phillips said.<\/p>\n

What will change, he added, is the way the Army prioritizes missions for its attack helicopters.<\/p>\n

\u201cFrom an employment perspective, we are no longer looking at Army aviation solely for close air support, reconnaissance, or anti-armor missions,\u201d Phillips said. \u201cWe are now able to integrate attack aviation directly into the theater air defense design. The Apache is a flying sensor and shooter for the joint force.\u201d\n\n<\/svg><\/p>\n<\/div>\n